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I feel a bit conflicted.

November 21st, 2014 (02:01 pm)

On the one hand, I'm a fairly tolerant liberal sort of person, and therefore, quite frankly, I think that everyone's entitled to their own opinions and beliefs and it's not for me to criticise them, particularly.

On the other hand, I'm a fairly tolerant liberal sort of person, and so some people's opinions and beliefs are pretty much anathema to me.

What this is leading up to is, in case you haven't heard, as a result of the by-election in Rochester and Strood, UKIP have another MP.

And I just...can't even begin to process this information. UKIP are basically Britain First in nice suits. They're racist, nationalist, homophobic, zenophobic bigots. There's no nice way to sugar coat that. It's not as if they make any secret of it. I mean, sure, sometimes one of their members will say something really really stupid in public and find himself out on his/her ear because it's not party policy to stand for those kind of opinions, but then those kind of opinions are reflected in their policies anyway, so...

The voters in Rochester and Strood who voted for Mr Reckless and actually support UKIP's views, I just feel profoundly angry that you've let the rest of the UK down like this. The ones who voted for Mr Reckless and don't support UKIP's views, go and read the sorts of things they stand for, ideally before the next general election. The ones who didn't vote for Mr Reckless, I feel deeply sorry for you...


Posted by: Sabethea (sabethea)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 02:49 pm (UTC)

Ugh, it's just awful. And you can add 'sexist' to the things they are, too - Farage has explicitly said that women are 'worth less' than men.

I'm ashamed to be from Kent just at the moment.

Posted by: lost_spook (lost_spook)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 05:02 pm (UTC)
s&s - odd

/o\ And, yeah, as someone else said, add sexist to the list. I suppose maybe people feel angry with the three main parties at the moment, but they could at least go vote for the Green Party or something rather than this bunch. If the Raving Loony Party was still a thing, that would be more sensible...

(I don't think it's intolerant not to like them, or certainly what they stand for. There's a line somewhere, and they're well over it.)

Posted by: sueworld2003 (sueworld2003)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 07:07 pm (UTC)

I'm amazed and disgusted in equal measure. I mean these bastards are even worse then the damn Tories and thats saying something!

Who's voting for these arseholes anyway??

Posted by: emmzzi (emmzzi)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 10:10 pm (UTC)

I am actually blaming the BBC. Where are the green stories?!?!

Posted by: lilachigh (lilachigh)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 11:39 pm (UTC)

I feel qualified to comment because Gravesend, a few miles from Rochester, will probably go UKIP next year. There is one overwhelming reason and it isn't politically correct to even say it out loud. Immigration. People are scared and angry, scared that it isn't safe to walk in the town centre after dark, angry because during the day you can walk the length of Gravesend High Street and not hear the English language being spoken at all.

And this is a community who has lived for two hundred years quite harmoniously with a very large Sikh population; we have the largest temple in Europe and up to recently had an Asian mayor.

We voted Conservative or Labour according to our views. But now - no one is listening and if you raise your voice to comment, you are shouted down as racist.

Those are the people who voted for Mr Reckless. Scared and unhappy, Tory and Labour. Yes, his party's views are horrible, but…. Why does this all sound remarkably like Germany in 1937?

Posted by: Heidi (welshgirl15)
Posted at: November 21st, 2014 11:53 pm (UTC)

I am very worried about the Generals next year. They won't get majority, but I'm concerned about the chances of a coalition...

Posted by: Karen (kazzy_cee)
Posted at: November 22nd, 2014 09:36 am (UTC)

Only 50% if people voted in the borough - I wonder what the result would have been if there had been a 100% turnout?

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